Val'anyr [Legendary Mace] Information
- Bastosa
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Re: Val'anyr [Legendary Mace] Information
Wait??? Has the drama started already? That was quicker than even I expected!
That being said we should wait for the rest of the itemization before we decide who this is for. Sure the on-equip seems to favor big heals, but if it also has +536 Spirit and zero crit that could change things...
That being said we should wait for the rest of the itemization before we decide who this is for. Sure the on-equip seems to favor big heals, but if it also has +536 Spirit and zero crit that could change things...
Re: Val'anyr [Legendary Mace] Information
Being excited isn't starting drama at all, Bast. Don't have a trigger finger to close this. I'll make sure not to be excited about an item, or post about it. Can't start "drama".
So let me clear this up so you don't read it as "drama":
I agreed with Caitlyn that it works off a number of casts on a priest, and moreover a shammy. So the stats on it will decide since it only works for the 4 healing classes in the game.
The assumption could even be this is a turn in for the stats on the mace to favor your class, much like atiesh. So you might be able to translate the stats into a haste mace, a crit mace. It's a quest reward, it'd not shock me if you can pick one of the two types of the healing mace to best fit spirit or what have you.
I'm not starting "Drama". Starting the discussion on the mace, and what it is was the intent. An epic healer mace would be nice, since all my itemization takes away from our warlocks and mages (the big chunk of our dps) and I'd like to stop stealing items from Caster DPS. So I get excited to see me not have to bid on their BiS weapon when I already have to on their ring, trinkets, necklace. (and I have passed on turning tides before I got mine, intentionally)
You can surely understand my excitement for that right?
/end thread hijack.
The animation on this mace is sweet. Lightening and the faces come off and the club end spins slowly. Check the video below. Sexiest 27 seconds in ulduar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdY8RXIKOAY
So let me clear this up so you don't read it as "drama":
I agreed with Caitlyn that it works off a number of casts on a priest, and moreover a shammy. So the stats on it will decide since it only works for the 4 healing classes in the game.
The assumption could even be this is a turn in for the stats on the mace to favor your class, much like atiesh. So you might be able to translate the stats into a haste mace, a crit mace. It's a quest reward, it'd not shock me if you can pick one of the two types of the healing mace to best fit spirit or what have you.
I'm not starting "Drama". Starting the discussion on the mace, and what it is was the intent. An epic healer mace would be nice, since all my itemization takes away from our warlocks and mages (the big chunk of our dps) and I'd like to stop stealing items from Caster DPS. So I get excited to see me not have to bid on their BiS weapon when I already have to on their ring, trinkets, necklace. (and I have passed on turning tides before I got mine, intentionally)
You can surely understand my excitement for that right?
/end thread hijack.
The animation on this mace is sweet. Lightening and the faces come off and the club end spins slowly. Check the video below. Sexiest 27 seconds in ulduar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdY8RXIKOAY
Last edited by Ghostbeezy on Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:02 pm, edited 2 times in total.
- caitlyn
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Re: Val'anyr [Legendary Mace] Information
I was not fully aware of the size of the heals that you were casting, merely that you were spamming them constantly (which is the important point, more casts=more procs). Priest and Druid healing more so, is not constant cast (except on something like Patch). This is why out of 5 seconds mana regen is getting nerfed. Granted I may be talking mostly about what i do/know. I know even less about shaman healing other than chain healing = amazing.Ghostbeezy wrote:It's categorically the opposite (which is why you see such different pally stats).. My smallest average heal on a raid is 11k. Our WoTLK strat is biggest heals as quickly as we can. Penance does trigger it, and flash heal does trigger it. It'll be 15% of whatever your penance hits for initially. As of right now it STACKS with Sacred Shield (pally talent). So I could mitigate with Shield + Ancient kings.caitlyn wrote:It is absurdly useful for pallies, since pally healing to me seems to be a lot of spamming quick, light heals, EACH of which can trigger the ability.
I think the bubble is on person and persists till damage drains, and would be on anyone it proc's on. So if you get a lucky streak, you could get 4 or 5 people with one of those. (Those are all conjecture on my part, No reason to put a CD on it since it's a chance to get the bubble on someone).
Either way, it's fucking sexy. I want it, I wont even front. I want that so FUCKING bad.
Re: Val'anyr [Legendary Mace] Information
Agreed Caitlyn. That's why it's an embarrasment of riches for pally's in WoTLK. Tanks got a single target taunt, a shield slam? Really?
Ret Pallys?... I mean they're not retlol or loladins anymore?
And Even Holy Pallys got a boost. I mean when it comes down to it, there may be a turn in for haste/spirit/or crit. The mace is flat out sexy either way. I want to lick it. If not, I'll have to itemize into the caster sword. I do it now anyways. I would HAVE to believe the turn in is either per class druid/priest/shammy/pally, or by stat. I just have to believe it. Atiesh was (though thoridal, warglaives were not). I would hedge my bet that the turn in is per class.
Ret Pallys?... I mean they're not retlol or loladins anymore?
And Even Holy Pallys got a boost. I mean when it comes down to it, there may be a turn in for haste/spirit/or crit. The mace is flat out sexy either way. I want to lick it. If not, I'll have to itemize into the caster sword. I do it now anyways. I would HAVE to believe the turn in is either per class druid/priest/shammy/pally, or by stat. I just have to believe it. Atiesh was (though thoridal, warglaives were not). I would hedge my bet that the turn in is per class.
- Bastosa
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Re: Val'anyr [Legendary Mace] Information
Ghost, I was very much kidding...
Re: Val'anyr [Legendary Mace] Information
But you're a giraffe, I can't hear sarcasm from above the treeline. lol. My bad honestly.Bastosa wrote:Ghost, I was very much kidding...
I'm just, dude I spent all of naxx biding on shit and hearing randal die inside a little, or lawree punch babies, Soly gritting her teeth. Or tal saying pallies must die.
A healing mace, I'm chomping at the bit for. Something I could stack Sacred Shield with and put a 10+k bubble on a tank that is a nice bit of mitigation. If you're a healer and don't want this mace. U R doing eet wrong. i've been to valanyr.com, it's the first post on MMo Champion. I'm the freaking thing is held together by lightening. WTF. most epic looking weapon to date.
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Re: Val'anyr [Legendary Mace] Information
The weapons has a farting effect to it! I want it now
- Sebulon
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Re: Val'anyr [Legendary Mace] Information
MMO-Champion.com has a section up dedicated entirely to the mace which can be found here.
- Randalthorr
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Re: Val'anyr [Legendary Mace] Information
You're just lucky that Mega hasn't been on in awhile. I mailed him my Hit list ages ago and you're Target #2...right after Talonni.Ghostbeezy wrote: I'm just, dude I spent all of naxx biding on shit and hearing randal die inside a little, or lawree punch babies, Soly gritting her teeth. Or tal saying pallies must die.
Sargeras or GTFO
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Re: Val'anyr [Legendary Mace] Information
So since its a pally weapon (obviously), we're giving it to Aemsterdam?
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